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		<title>By: Paid Links&#8211;Why They Can Kill Your Website : Wellwrittenwords Speaks SEO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paid Links&#8211;Why They Can Kill Your Website : Wellwrittenwords Speaks SEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 09:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] hate to talk about my fellow SEOs: by-and-large they&#8217;re a great bunch. But. They will often make a big deal out of getting paid [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hate to talk about my fellow SEOs: by-and-large they&#8217;re a great bunch. But. They will often make a big deal out of getting paid [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://searchmarketingwisdom.com/2010/07/exclusive-insights-bruce-clay-talks-topseos/comment-page-1/#comment-2416</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan,
Thank you sooooooo much!!! The companies you recommended look great! I will follow up with them.
Take care,
Lori]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,<br />
Thank you sooooooo much!!! The companies you recommended look great! I will follow up with them.<br />
Take care,<br />
Lori</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Bleiweiss</title>
		<link>http://searchmarketingwisdom.com/2010/07/exclusive-insights-bruce-clay-talks-topseos/comment-page-1/#comment-2412</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Bleiweiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lori,

There are many reputable SEO companies.  I can recommend several, in fact.  Both from the perspective of companies that to excellent work to the fact that their owners are some of the most honest and trustworthy individuals I&#039;ve ever come to meet.   Here&#039;s just a few:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://outspokenmedia.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Outspoken Media&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.verticalmeasures.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vertical Measures&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;www.dreamsystemsmedia.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dream Systems Media&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori,</p>
<p>There are many reputable SEO companies.  I can recommend several, in fact.  Both from the perspective of companies that to excellent work to the fact that their owners are some of the most honest and trustworthy individuals I&#8217;ve ever come to meet.   Here&#8217;s just a few:  <a href="http://outspokenmedia.com" rel="nofollow">Outspoken Media</a>  <a href="http://www.verticalmeasures.com" rel="nofollow">Vertical Measures</a> <a href="www.dreamsystemsmedia.com" rel="nofollow">Dream Systems Media</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori Hollander</title>
		<link>http://searchmarketingwisdom.com/2010/07/exclusive-insights-bruce-clay-talks-topseos/comment-page-1/#comment-2307</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori Hollander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 21:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know of a reputable SEO company for a small business? Everything I read makes me not want to do SEO for fear of being ripped off!
Thanks!!
Lori
lhollander@RelationshipsWork.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know of a reputable SEO company for a small business? Everything I read makes me not want to do SEO for fear of being ripped off!<br />
Thanks!!<br />
Lori<br />
<a href="mailto:lhollander@RelationshipsWork.com">lhollander@RelationshipsWork.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 00:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bruce is as full of it as most Seo shops. Only bc he has been around forever and he shows up with his doll at every show doesn&#039;t give him any legitimacy. If you need Seoservices hit up a natural linkbuilder and combine with selective link buys at one of the brokers. Seo in 2010 is a money game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce is as full of it as most Seo shops. Only bc he has been around forever and he shows up with his doll at every show doesn&#8217;t give him any legitimacy. If you need Seoservices hit up a natural linkbuilder and combine with selective link buys at one of the brokers. Seo in 2010 is a money game.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Bleiweiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Bleiweiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 18:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adam,

Thank you for your perspective on this topic.  As far as having some well thought-out solutions to propose, I invite you to read my article entitled &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/4JTNJQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cleaning Up the SEO Cesspool&lt;/a&gt;&quot; over at SearchEngineJournal.com from January of this year :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,</p>
<p>Thank you for your perspective on this topic.  As far as having some well thought-out solutions to propose, I invite you to read my article entitled &#8220;<a href="http://bit.ly/4JTNJQ" rel="nofollow">Cleaning Up the SEO Cesspool</a>&#8221; over at SearchEngineJournal.com from January of this year <img src='http://searchmarketingwisdom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Directory Sieve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Directory Sieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 18:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if you are attached to an illegal/unethical business in any form, your business practice is equally un-ethical. sorry to say it straight out, but in cases likes this being diplomatic does not works, unless you are a politician :(

i would advice the good guys to stay out of the bad companies, no matter how much profitable it is, maintaining a good business standard/reputation is as hard as creating one, no point wasting the image by joining hands with the bad guys...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you are attached to an illegal/unethical business in any form, your business practice is equally un-ethical. sorry to say it straight out, but in cases likes this being diplomatic does not works, unless you are a politician <img src='http://searchmarketingwisdom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>i would advice the good guys to stay out of the bad companies, no matter how much profitable it is, maintaining a good business standard/reputation is as hard as creating one, no point wasting the image by joining hands with the bad guys&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 17:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess I see your point here. I understand the arguments and can see that the financial relationships are, well, complicated and politically charged... But a few thoughts.

1) This is true in every industry. I only arrived in SEO a few years ago (though in IT for 15), and I have seen far worse stuff there.

2) I firmly fall in the camp of: &quot;If you are going to rant on something (especially this hard), you had better have some well thought-out solutions to propose.&quot;  

Not trying to sound harsh on that, and they may be posted elsewhere and I missed them. But what is the alternative you are proposing?  This strikes me as similar to the problems with the ratings institutions on Wall Street - who failed to steer millions of investors away from toxic asset investments, instead opting to keep them at AAA status - sometimes with clandestine financial arrangements in the back-office...  But in the end, nobody really had a better alternative, so the rating agencies remain... Isn&#039;t the marketplace supposed to sort these things out in the end? 

Just a few random thoughts. Interesting discussion you had with Bruce.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I see your point here. I understand the arguments and can see that the financial relationships are, well, complicated and politically charged&#8230; But a few thoughts.</p>
<p>1) This is true in every industry. I only arrived in SEO a few years ago (though in IT for 15), and I have seen far worse stuff there.</p>
<p>2) I firmly fall in the camp of: &#8220;If you are going to rant on something (especially this hard), you had better have some well thought-out solutions to propose.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Not trying to sound harsh on that, and they may be posted elsewhere and I missed them. But what is the alternative you are proposing?  This strikes me as similar to the problems with the ratings institutions on Wall Street &#8211; who failed to steer millions of investors away from toxic asset investments, instead opting to keep them at AAA status &#8211; sometimes with clandestine financial arrangements in the back-office&#8230;  But in the end, nobody really had a better alternative, so the rating agencies remain&#8230; Isn&#8217;t the marketplace supposed to sort these things out in the end? </p>
<p>Just a few random thoughts. Interesting discussion you had with Bruce.<br />
<span class="cluv">Adam´s last blog ..<a rel="nofollow" href="http://hubshout.com/?Googles-Next-Big-Move:-Voice&amp;AID=223">Googles Next Big Move- Voice</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip -1" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://searchmarketingwisdom.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Alan Bleiweiss</title>
		<link>http://searchmarketingwisdom.com/2010/07/exclusive-insights-bruce-clay-talks-topseos/comment-page-1/#comment-1326</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Bleiweiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 15:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nick,

You&#039;re right.  Bruce needs to pull the plug on TopSEOs and any company wishing to be seen as legitimate who is currently a member should also do the same.  There are no excuses on this point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right.  Bruce needs to pull the plug on TopSEOs and any company wishing to be seen as legitimate who is currently a member should also do the same.  There are no excuses on this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Stamoulis</title>
		<link>http://searchmarketingwisdom.com/2010/07/exclusive-insights-bruce-clay-talks-topseos/comment-page-1/#comment-1323</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Stamoulis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 12:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Alan,
Thanks for sharing a different perspective!

I personally respect Bruce Clay, his company and for what he does and has done to help evolve our industry.  I have not meet him in person yet, but have spoken with him via email in the past.  

That said, I also have been reading all of the great articles about the who Top SEOs scam.  I personally would NEVER pay $2,500 a month for a membership for something that is a &quot;pay for play&quot; type of thing.  I tested Top SEOs in the past for my SEO/SEM firm (through a banner membership) and no surprise I had a terrible ROI.

I think that Bruce (along with others out there) should pull the plug on Top SEOs!  Seriously, legitimate SEO service providers should be able to generate their own business through SEO, PPC, Social Media, etc and should not have to rely on Top SEOs.  Maybe if the honest folks like Bruce Clay pull their business from them then others will follow?

Anyway, this is my 2 cents! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alan,<br />
Thanks for sharing a different perspective!</p>
<p>I personally respect Bruce Clay, his company and for what he does and has done to help evolve our industry.  I have not meet him in person yet, but have spoken with him via email in the past.  </p>
<p>That said, I also have been reading all of the great articles about the who Top SEOs scam.  I personally would NEVER pay $2,500 a month for a membership for something that is a &#8220;pay for play&#8221; type of thing.  I tested Top SEOs in the past for my SEO/SEM firm (through a banner membership) and no surprise I had a terrible ROI.</p>
<p>I think that Bruce (along with others out there) should pull the plug on Top SEOs!  Seriously, legitimate SEO service providers should be able to generate their own business through SEO, PPC, Social Media, etc and should not have to rely on Top SEOs.  Maybe if the honest folks like Bruce Clay pull their business from them then others will follow?</p>
<p>Anyway, this is my 2 cents! <img src='http://searchmarketingwisdom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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